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發表於 2007-10-22 23:32:34 | 顯示全部樓層
試試看明年八月去看永晝!!  現在就可以訂了耶~~~
發表於 2007-10-23 07:17:33 | 顯示全部樓層
永晝是甚麼~

今年聖誕節打折嗎 XD
可以考慮一下
這正確位置是在哪邊呢~
oslo?
發表於 2007-10-23 10:58:59 | 顯示全部樓層
那有北極光可看嗎?


想到零下20度.耳朵都快掉了
發表於 2007-10-23 11:02:51 | 顯示全部樓層
原文由 grace 於 2007-10-23 07:17 發表
永晝是甚麼~


http://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index. ... D&variant=zh-tw

極晝,又稱永晝或午夜太陽,是在地球的兩極地區,一日之內,太陽都在地平線以上的現象,即晝長等於24小時。


[編輯] 規律
如果太陽直射點在哪個半球,那個半球的極地附近就會出現極晝現象。

極晝的範圍與太陽直射點緯度有關,其邊界與極點的緯度差就是太陽直射點的緯度。

所以: 春分過後,北極附近就會出現極晝,此後極晝範圍越來越大;至夏至日達到最大,邊界到達北極圈;夏至日過後,北極附近極晝範圍逐漸縮小,至秋分日縮至0;秋分過後,南極附近出現極晝,此後南極附近的極晝範圍越來越大;至冬至日達到最大,邊界到達南極圈;冬至日過後,南極附近極晝範圍逐漸縮小,至春分日縮至0。

如此周而複始,其周期為一個回歸年。
發表於 2007-10-23 11:05:10 | 顯示全部樓層
原文由 grace 於 2007-10-23 07:17 發表
今年聖誕節打折嗎 XD
可以考慮一下
這正確位置是在哪邊呢~
oslo?


打折?? 不知道耶~~~

Oslo 奧斯陸是挪威的首都
發表於 2007-10-23 11:07:51 | 顯示全部樓層
冬天去是永夜喔!!



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極夜,又稱永夜是在地球的兩極地區,一日之內,太陽都在地平線以下的現象,即夜長為一個太陽日。


規律
如果太陽直射點在哪個半球,另個一個半球的極地附近就會出現極夜現象。

極晝的範圍與太陽直射點緯度有關,其邊界與極點的緯度差就是太陽直射點的緯度。

所以: 春分過後,南極附近就會出現極夜,此後極夜範圍越來越大;至夏至日達到最大,邊界到達南極圈;夏至日過後,南極附近極夜範圍逐漸縮小,至秋分日縮至0;秋分過後,北極附近出現極夜,此後北極附近的極夜範圍越來越大;至冬至日達到最大,邊界到達北極圈;冬至日過後,北極附近極夜範圍逐漸縮小,至春分日縮至0。

如此周而複始,其周期為一個回歸年。
發表於 2007-10-23 11:18:35 | 顯示全部樓層
原文由 ipeace 於 2007-10-23 10:58 發表
那有北極光可看嗎?


http://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index. ... 9&variant=zh-tw

極光(Polar aurora)出現於地球的高磁緯地區上空。是一種絢麗多彩的發光現象。由來自地球磁層或太陽的高能帶電粒子流(太陽風)使高層大氣分子或原子激發(或電離)而產生。另外,在太陽黑子多的時候,極光出現的頻率也大。

極光是地球周圍的一種大規模放電的過程。來自太陽的帶電粒子到達地球附近,地球磁場迫使其中一部分沿著磁場線集中到南北兩極。當他們進入極地的高層大氣時,與大氣中的原子和分子碰撞並激發,產生光芒,形成極光。

極光不只在地球上出現,太陽系內的其他一些具有磁場的行星上也有極光。

在北半球觀察到的極光稱北極光,南半球觀察到的極光稱南極光。也有科學家發現火星、木星上的極光。

極光按形態可分為:

勻光弧極光
射線式光柱極光
射線式光弧光帶極光
簾幕狀極光
極光冕
按觀測的電磁波波段分為:

光學極光
無線電極光
按激發粒子類型可分為:

電子極光
質子極光
按發生區域可分為:

極光帶極光
極蓋極光
中緯極光紅弧

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發表於 2007-10-23 11:22:41 | 顯示全部樓層
原文由 ipeace 於 2007-10-23 10:58 發表
那有北極光可看嗎?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28astronomy%29

Auroras (or aurorae) [sing: aurora] are natural colored light displays, which are usually observed in the night sky, particularly in the polar zone. Some scientists therefore call them "polar auroras" (or "aurorae polaris").

In northern latitudes, it is known as the aurora borealis, named after the Roman goddess of the dawn, Aurora, and the Greek name for north wind, Boreas. It often appears as a greenish glow (or sometimes a faint red), as if the sun were rising from an unusual direction. The aurora borealis is also called the northern lights, as it is only visible in the North sky from the Northern Hemisphere. The aurora borealis most often occurs from September to October and from March to April.

Its southern counterpart, aurora australis, has similar properties. Australis is the Latin word for "of the South".

Auroral mechanism
Auroras are now known to be caused by the collision of charged particles (ions (+) (-) ) found in the magnetosphere, with atoms in the Earth's upper atmosphere (at altitudes above 80 km). These particles travel into space with speeds of 300 to 1200 kilometers per second. A cloud of these particles is called plasma, and a stream of plasma coming from the sun is called solar wind. These charged particles are typically energized to levels between 1 and 15 keV and, as they collide with atoms of gases in the atmosphere, the atoms become excited. Shortly afterwards, the atoms emit their gained energy as light (see Fluorescence). Light emitted by the Aurora tends to be dominated by emissions from atomic oxygen, resulting in a greenish glow (at a wavelength of 557.7 nm) and — especially at lower energy levels and at higher altitudes — the dark-red glow (at 630.0 nm of wavelength). Both of these represent forbidden transitions of electrons of atomic oxygen that, in absence of newer collisions, persist for a long time and account for the slow brightening and fading (0.5-1 s) of auroral rays. Many other colors — especially those emitted by atomic and molecular nitrogen (blue and purple, respectively)[1] — can also be observed. These, however, vary much faster and reveal the true dynamic nature of aurora.

Auroral forms and magnetism
An auroraTypically the aurora appears either as a diffuse glow or as "curtains" that approximately extend in the east-west direction. At some times, they form "quiet arcs"; at others ("active aurora"), they evolve and change constantly. Each curtain consists of many parallel rays, each lined up with the local direction of the magnetic field lines, suggesting that aurora is shaped by the earth's magnetic field. Indeed, satellites show electrons to be guided by magnetic field lines, spiraling around them while moving earthwards.

The curtains often show folds called "striations", which are curtain-like. When the field line guiding a bright auroral patch leads to a point directly above the observer, the aurora may appear as a "corona" of diverging rays, an effect of perspective.

Although it was first mentioned by Ancient Greek explorer/geographer Pytheas, Hiorter and Celsius first described in 1741 evidence for magnetic control, namely, large magnetic fluctuations occurred whenever the aurora was observed overhead. This indicates (it was later realized) that large electric currents were associated with the aurora, flowing in the region where auroral light originated. Kristian Birkeland (1908)[2] deduced that the currents flowed in the east-west directions along the auroral arc, and such currents, flowing from the dayside towards (approximately) midnight were later named "auroral electrojets" (see also Birkeland currents).

Still more evidence for a magnetic connection are the statistics of auroral observations. Elias Loomis (1860) and later in more detail Hermann Fritz (1881)[3] established that the aurora appeared mainly in the "auroral zone", a ring-shaped region with a radius of approximately 2500 km around the magnetic pole of the earth, not its geographic one. It was hardly ever seen near that pole itself. The instantaneous distribution of auroras ("auroral oval", Yasha [or Yakov] Felds[h]tein 1963[4]) is slightly different, centered about 3-5 degrees nightward of the magnetic pole, so that auroral arcs reach furthest towards the equator around midnight. The aurora can be seen best at this time.

The solar wind and magnetosphere
Schematic of Earth's magnetosphereThe earth is constantly immersed in the solar wind, a rarefied flow of hot plasma (gas of free electrons and positive ions) emitted by the sun in all directions, a result of the million-degree heat of the sun's outermost layer, the solar corona. The solar wind usually reaches Earth with a velocity around 400 km/s, density around 5 ions/cc and magnetic field intensity around 2–5 nT (nanoteslas; the earth's surface field is typically 30,000–50,000 nT). These are typical values. During magnetic storms, in particular, flows can be several times faster; the interplanetary magnetic field (IMF) may also be much stronger.

The IMF originates on the sun, related to the field of sunspots, and its field lines (lines of force) are dragged out by the solar wind. That alone would tend to line them up in the sun-earth direction, but the rotation of the sun skews them (at Earth) by about 45 degrees, so that field lines passing Earth may actually start near the western edge ("limb") of the visible sun.[5]

The earth's magnetosphere is the space region dominated by its magnetic field. It forms an obstacle in the path of the solar wind, causing it to be diverted around it, at a distance of about 70,000 km (before it reaches that boundary, typically 12,000–15,000 km upstream, a bow shock forms). The width of the magnetospheric obstacle, abreast of Earth, is typically 190,000 km, and on the night side a long "magnetotail" of stretched field lines extends to great distances.

When the solar wind is perturbed, it easily transfers energy and material into the magnetosphere. The electrons and ions in the magnetosphere that are thus energized move along the magnetic field lines to the polar regions of the atmosphere.


Frequency of occurrence

Aurora australis 1994 from latitude 47 degrees southThe aurora is a common occurrence in the Poles. It is occasionally seen in temperate latitudes, when a strong magnetic storm temporarily expands the auroral oval. Large magnetic storms are most common during the peak of the eleven-year sunspot cycle or during the three years after that peak.[citation needed] However, within the auroral zone the likelihood of an aurora occurring depends mostly on the slant of IMF lines (known as Bz, pronounced "bee-sub-zed" or "bee-sub-zee"), being greater with southward slants.

Geomagnetic storms that ignite auroras actually happen more often during the months around the equinoxes. It is not well understood why geomagnetic storms are tied to the earth's seasons when polar activity is not. It is known, however, that during spring and autumn, the earth's and the interplanetary magnetic field link up. At the magnetopause, Earth's magnetic field points north. When Bz becomes large and negative (i.e., the IMF tilts south), it can partially cancel Earth's magnetic field at the point of contact. South-pointing Bz's open a door through which energy from the solar wind can reach Earth's inner magnetosphere.

The peaking of Bz during this time is a result of geometry. The interplanetary magnetic field comes from the sun and is carried outward the solar wind. Because the sun rotates the IMF has a spiral shape. Earth's magnetic dipole axis is most closely aligned with the Parker spiral in April and October. As a result, southward (and northward) excursions of Bz are greatest then.

However, Bz is not the only influence on geomagnetic activity. The Sun's rotation axis is tilted 8 degrees with respect to the plane of Earth's orbit. Because the solar wind blows more rapidly from the sun's poles than from its equator, the average speed of particles buffeting Earth's magnetosphere waxes and wanes every six months. The solar wind speed is greatest — by about 50 km/s, on average — around September 5 and March 5 when Earth lies at its highest heliographic latitude.

Still, neither Bz nor the solar wind can fully explain the seasonal behavior of geomagnetic storms. Those factors together contribute only about one-third of the observed semiannual variation.
發表於 2007-10-23 12:14:19 | 顯示全部樓層
Auroral events of historical significance
The auroras which occurred as a result of the "great geomagnetic storm" on both August 28, 1859 and September 2, 1859 are thought to be perhaps the most spectacular ever witnessed throughout recent recorded history. The latter, which occurred on September 2, 1859 as a result of the exceptionally intense Carrington-Hodgson white light solar flare on September 1, 1859 produced aurora so widespread and extraordinarily brilliant that they were seen and reported in published scientific measurements, ship's logs and newspapers throughout the United States, Europe, Japan and Australia. It was said in the New York Times[specify] that "ordinary print could be read by the light [of the aurora]". The aurora is thought to have been produced by one of the most intense coronal mass ejections in history, very near the maximum intensity that the sun is thought to be capable of producing. It is also notable for the fact that it is the first time where the phenomena of auroral activity and electricity were unambiguously linked. This insight was made possible not only due to scientific magnetometer measurements of the era but also as a result of a significant portion of the 125,000 miles of telegraph lines then in service being significantly disrupted for many hours throughout the storm. Some telegraph lines however, seem to have been of the appropriate length and orientation which allowed a current (geomagnetically induced current) to be induced in them (due to Earth's severely fluctuating magnetosphere) and actually used for communication. The following conversation was had between two operators of the American Telegraph Line between Boston and Portland, ME, on the night of September 2, 1859 and reported in the Boston Traveler:

Boston operator (to Portland operator): "Please cut off your battery [power source] entirely for fifteen minutes."
Portland operator: "Will do so. It is now disconnected."
Boston: "Mine is disconnected, and we are working with the auroral current. How do you receive my writing?"
Portland: "Better than with our batteries on. - Current comes and goes gradually."
Boston: "My current is very strong at times, and we can work better without the batteries, as the aurora seems to neutralize and augment our batteries alternately, making current too strong at times for our relay magnets. Suppose we work without batteries while we are affected by this trouble."
Portland: "Very well. Shall I go ahead with business?"
Boston: "Yes. Go ahead."


The conversation was carried on for around two hours using no battery power at all and working solely with the current induced by the aurora, and it was said that this was the first time on record that more than a word or two was transmitted in such manner.[6]

The origin of the aurora
The ultimate energy source of the aurora is the solar wind flowing past the Earth.

Both the magnetosphere and the solar wind consist of plasma (ionized gas), which conducts electricity. It is well known (since Michael Faraday's (1791 - 1867) work around 1830 that when an electrical conductor is placed within a magnetic field while relative motion occurs in a direction that the conductor cuts across (or is cut by), rather than along, the lines of the magnetic field, an electrical current is said to be induced into that conductor and electrons will flow within it. The amount of current flow is dependant upon a) the rate of relative motion and b) the strength of the magnetic field, c) the number of conductors ganged together and d) the distance between the conductor and the magnetic field, while the direction of flow is dependant upon the direction of relative motion. Alternating current (AC) electric generators which are called Alternators are fitted with a commutator in order to change the AC to DC (Direct Current); Dynamos make use of this basic process ("the dynamo effect"), any and all conductors, solid or otherwise are so affected including plasmas or other fluids.

In particular the solar wind and the magnetosphere are two electrically conducting fluids with such relative motion and should be able (in principle) to generate electric currents by "dynamo action", in the process also extracting energy from the flow of the solar wind. The process is hampered by the fact that plasmas conduct easily along magnetic field lines, but not so easily perpendicular to them. It is therefore important that a temporary magnetic interconnection be established between the field lines of the solar wind and those of the magnetosphere, by a process known as magnetic reconnection. It happens most easily with a southward slant of interplanetary field lines, because then field lines north of Earth approximately match the direction of field lines near the north magnetic pole (namely, into the earth), and similarly near the southern pole. Indeed, active auroras (and related "substorms") are much more likely at such times.

Electric currents originating in such fashion apparently give auroral electrons their energy. The magnetospheric plasma has an abundance of electrons: some are magnetically trapped, some reside in the magnetotail, and some exist in the upward extension of the ionosphere, which may extend (with diminishing density) some 25,000 km around the earth.

Bright auroras are generally associated with Birkeland currents (Schield et al., 1969;[7] Zmuda and Armstrong, 1973[8]) which flow down into the ionosphere on one side of the pole and out on the other. In between, some of the current connects directly through the ionospheric E layer (125 km); the rest ("region 2") detours, leaving again through field lines closer to the equator and closing through the "partial ring current" carried by magnetically trapped plasma. The ionosphere is an ohmic conductor, so such currents require a driving voltage, which some dynamo mechanism can supply. Electric field probes in orbit above the polar cap suggest voltages of the order of 40,000 volts, rising up to more than 200,000 volts during intense magnetic storms.

Ionospheric resistance has a complex nature, and leads to a secondary Hall current flow. By a strange twist of physics, the magnetic disturbance on the ground due to the main current almost cancels out, so most of the observed effect of auroras is due to a secondary current, the auroral electrojet. An auroral electrojet index (measured in nanotesla) is regularly derived from ground data and serves as a general measure of auroral activity.

However, ohmic resistance is not the only obstacle to current flow in this circuit. The convergence of magnetic field lines near Earth creates a "mirror effect" which turns back most of the down-flowing electrons (where currents flow upwards), inhibiting current-carrying capacity. To overcome this, part of the available voltage appears along the field line ("parallel to the field"), helping electrons overcome that obstacle by widening the bundle of trajectories reaching Earth; a similar "parallel voltage" is used in "tandem mirror" plasma containment devices. A feature of such voltage is that it is concentrated near Earth (potential proportional to field intensity; Persson, 1963[9]), and indeed, as deduced by Evans (1974) and confirmed by satellites, most auroral acceleration occurs below 10,000 km. Another indicator of parallel electric fields along field lines are beams of upwards flowing O+ ions observed on auroral field lines.

Some O+ ions ("conics") also seem accelerated in different ways by plasma processes associated with the aurora. These ions are accelerated by plasma waves, in directions mainly perpendicular to the field lines. They therefore start at their own "mirror points" and can travel only upwards. As they do so, the "mirror effect" transforms their directions of motion, from perpendicular to the line to lying on a cone around it, which gradually narrows down.

In addition, the aurora and associated currents produce a strong radio emission around 150 kHz known as auroral kilometric radiation (AKR, discovered in 1972). Ionospheric absorption makes AKR observable from space only.

These "parallel voltages" accelerate electrons to auroral energies and seem to be a major source of aurora. Other mechanisms have also been proposed, in particular, Alfvén waves, wave modes involving the magnetic field first noted by Hannes Alfvén (1942), which have been observed in the lab and in space. The question is however whether this might just be a different way of looking at the above process, because this approach does not point out a different energy source, and many plasma bulk phenomena can also be described in terms of Alfvén waves.

Other processes are also involved in the aurora, and much remains to be learned. Auroral electrons created by large geomagnetic storms often seem to have energies below 1 keV, and are stopped higher up, near 200 km. Such low energies excite mainly the red line of oxygen, so that often such auroras are red. On the other hand, positive ions also reach the ionosphere at such time, with energies of 20-30 keV, suggesting they might be an "overflow" along magnetic field lines of the copious "ring current" ions accelerated at such times, by processes different from the ones described above.
發表於 2007-10-23 12:20:15 | 顯示全部樓層
Sources and types of aurora
Again, our understanding is very incomplete. A rough guess may point out three main sources:

Dynamo action with the solar wind flowing past Earth, possibly producing quiet auroral arcs ("directly driven" process). The circuit of the accelerating currents and their connection to the solar wind are uncertain.
Dynamo action involving plasma squeezed earthward by sudden convulsions of the magnetotail ("magnetic substorms"). Substorms tend to occur after prolonged spells (hours) during which the interplanetary magnetic field has an appreciable southward component, leading to a high rate of interconnection between its field lines and those of Earth. As a result the solar wind moves magnetic flux (tubes of magnetic field lines, moving together with their resident plasma) from the day side of Earth to the magnetotail, widening the obstacle it presents to the solar wind flow and causing it to be squeezed harder. Ultimately the tail plasma is torn ("magnetic reconnection"); some blobs ("plasmoids") are squeezed tailwards and are carried away with the solar wind; others are squeezed earthwards where their motion feeds large outbursts of aurora, mainly around midnight ("unloading process"). Geomagnetic storms have similar effects, but with greater vigor. The big difference is the addition of many particles to the plasma trapped around Earth, enhancing the "ring current" which it carries. The resulting modification of the earth's field allows aurora to be visible at middle latitudes, on field lines much closer to the equator.
Satellite images of the aurora from above show a "ring of fire" along the auroral oval (see above), often widest at midnight. That is the "diffuse aurora", not distinct enough to be seen by the eye. It does not seem to be associated with acceleration by electric currents (although currents and their arcs may be embedded in it) but to be due to electrons leaking out of the magnetotail.

Any magnetic trapping is leaky--there always exists a bundle of directions ("loss cone") around the guiding magnetic field lines where particles are not trapped but escape. In the radiation belts of Earth, once particles on such trajectories are gone, new ones only replace them very slowly, leaving such directions nearly "empty". In the magnetotail, however, particle trajectories seem to be constantly reshuffled, probably when the particles cross the very weak field near the equator. As a result, the flow of electrons in all directions is nearly the same ("isotropic"), and that assures a steady supply of leaking electrons.

The energization of such electrons comes from magnetotail processes. The leakage of negative electrons does not leave the tail positively charged, because each leaked electron lost to the atmosphere is quickly replaced by a low energy electron drawn upwards from the ionosphere. Such replacement of "hot" electrons by "cold" ones is in complete accord with the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

Other types of aurora have been observed from space, e.g.[citation needed] "poleward arcs" stretching sunward across the polar cap, the related "theta aurora", and "dayside arcs" near noon. These are relatively infrequent and poorly understood. Space does not allow discussion of other effects such as flickering aurora, "black aurora" and subvisual red arcs. In addition to all these, a weak glow (often deep red) has been observed around the two polar cusps, the "funnels" of field lines separating the ones that close on the day side of Earth from lines swept into the tail. The cusps allow a small amount of solar wind to reach the top of the atmosphere, producing an auroral glow.
發表於 2007-10-23 12:21:24 | 顯示全部樓層
History of Aurora theories

In the past theories have been proposed to explain the phenomenon. These theories are now obsolete.

Auroral electrons come from beams emitted by the sun. This was claimed around 1900 by Kristian Birkeland, whose experiments in a vacuum chamber with electron beams and magnetized spheres (miniature models of the earth or "terrellas") showed that such electrons would be guided towards the polar regions. Problems with this model included absence of aurora at the poles themselves, self-dispersal of such beams by their negative charge, and more recently, lack of any observational evidence in space.
The aurora is the overflow of the radiation belt ("leaky bucket theory"). This was first disproved around 1962 by James Van Allen and co-workers, who showed that the high rate at which energy was dissipated by the aurora would quickly drain all that was available in the radiation belt. Soon afterwards it became clear that most of the energy in trapped particles resided in positive ions, while auroral particles were almost always electrons, of relatively low energy.
The aurora is produced by solar wind particles guided by the earth's field lines to the top of the atmosphere. This holds true for the cusp aurora, but outside the cusp, the solar wind has no direct access. In addition, the main energy in the solar wind resides in positive ions; electrons only have about 0.5 eV (electron volt), and while in the cusp this may be raised to 50–100 eV, that still falls short of auroral energies.
發表於 2007-10-23 12:24:40 | 顯示全部樓層
原文由 ipeace 於 2007-10-23 10:58 發表
那有北極光可看嗎?


想到零下20度.耳朵都快掉了


根據上述資料,北極光發生的季節多在春秋兩季!  每十一年有一次大密集式的放電...

所以,有北極光可看嗎? 沒人能保證的!!  看運氣囉!!!
發表於 2007-10-23 13:07:10 | 顯示全部樓層
還剩五天可以訂喔~~~
發表於 2007-10-24 01:10:15 | 顯示全部樓層
北歐永晝的亮和永夜的暗
跟想像的程度好像不太一樣?!

雖然芬蘭半夜十二點天還是亮的
可是也沒有整個非常亮?!

還有瑞典夏至那陣子
太陽怎麼還是沉到海平面下了?!
發表於 2007-10-24 16:00:45 | 顯示全部樓層
原文由 spicyfish 於 2007-10-24 01:10 發表
北歐永晝的亮和永夜的暗
跟想像的程度好像不太一樣?!

雖然芬蘭半夜十二點天還是亮的
可是也沒有整個非常亮?!

還有瑞典夏至那陣子
太陽怎麼還是沉到海平面下了?!


大大說得是!!!!

不過,夏至應是六月時節??  

偶聽說永晝約在八月中下旬,而且只有短短幾天喔~~~
發表於 2007-10-28 21:43:35 | 顯示全部樓層

對Germanwings的抱怨

我好早好早之前就訂了聖誕節從Stuttgrt到Berlin的機票了
但是上禮拜五我收到系統寄的信
Dear Customer,

due to operational reasons we had to change the flight/s.
We apologize for the inconvenience our cancellation may have caused.


所以我被迫要取消我的班機
雖然他說會賠償我的損失
但我想只是退原價給我
但是~我剛剛查一下 如果我重訂
價格已經是原來的兩倍了

而且~~我訂的是五個人的耶

所以現在不知道該怎麼辦(焦慮中.......)
有人有這種經驗嗎
明天早上要打電話好好問一下~~~~~~~
發表於 2007-10-28 21:58:02 | 顯示全部樓層
原文由 kimmyguan 於 2007-10-28 21:43 發表
所以我被迫要取消我的班機
雖然他說會賠償我的損失
但我想只是退原價給我
但是~我剛剛查一下 如果我重訂
價格已經是原來的兩倍了


是會退錢
只是我沒有重訂的經驗
因為就換搭別家改去別地方了
事先取消至少還有別的選擇
比我碰到的狀況好多了 xD
發表於 2007-10-28 22:10:09 | 顯示全部樓層
可是可是~~~~~~~
我都已經訂好hostel
而且其他家價格也都是這樣...................

朋友難得從台灣來找我玩的說~~

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參與人數 1短評 +2 收起 理由
spicyfish + 2 比直達ICE五個半小時/29歐貴嗎?

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發表於 2008-5-13 23:47:14 | 顯示全部樓層
請問如果要訂購機票
一定要用刷卡的嗎?
如果有像sparkasse可以輸入密碼直接扣款的可以嗎?
如果付現可以嗎?

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參與人數 1短評 +1 收起 理由
mmarta + 1 直接金融卡扣款可以但是要至少七天前

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發表於 2008-5-30 15:30:35 | 顯示全部樓層
恩 希望我沒有眼殘看錯 免費行李部分


                 手提       托運
Tuifly             8          20
Condor         6          20

是這樣沒錯吧 @@

但是他托運行李怎麼都沒有寫尺寸的限制 好怪@@

另外 Memmingen 機場是個很奇怪的地方嗎? 有人去過嗎? XD
我想要買Dauer-Spezial ,但是網頁顯示不能從那個Flughafen開始算 好怪

感謝

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另 Germanwings似乎沒有免費托運,僅有免費手提

要直接殺去Kreta的人 可以坐condor 沒有比他更便宜的了
回德國從Thessaloniki到Memmingen只要46歐

[ 本文最後由 kido183 於 2008-5-30 15:42 編輯 ]

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